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John McCain: One Hundred Years
Posted on June 2nd, 2008 by drowning wave -

A montage featuring quotes about John McCain's Iraq war policies, set to The Cure's "One Hundred Years."

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    This past week while watching the news networks I noticed the GOP is touting the success of the “Surge” effort by our great military in Iraq. The McCain camp wants the American public to believe that Senator Obama’ s judgment regarding the “Surge” was improper. Senator Obama has praised our military for doing an outstanding job.
    Lets be clear! Iraq is a country where [its] own people are too reluctant to fight for [its] own freedom and too complacent to see [our] sons and daughters shed blood while [we] Americans await the Iraqi “Awakening”. All while their purse grows by the billions. Why would any government want the current arrangement to change? We are paying for their security in blood. Money is replaceable but blood is not!
    I hope in the very near future straight talkers like Bill Cafferty, Larry King or Campbell Brown ask Senator McCain to define “victory”. Senator McCain with his “Maverick” persona and great military background should find such a question easy, but for the laymen public such an answer might be alarming. Remember Senator McCain has already stated that we could stay in this country indefinitely. If we are waiting for the Iraqi people to take over the reigns of this fight and become our ally in the war on terror then sadly in the end we Americans may be in for a great disappointment? For the laymen remember this enemy is not a state it is an ideology and it has found shelter in neighborhoods of states that sponsor a similar ideology.
    The biggest gaff reported by news networks wasn’t a gaff. On Friday May 2, 2003 President George W. Bush declared “victory” for Operation Iraqi Freedom while aboard the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln. The president said,
    “The transition from dictatorship to democracy will take time, but it is worth every effort. Our coalition will stay until our work is done. Then we will leave, and we will leave behind a free Iraq… Our war against terror is proceeding according to principles that I have made clear to all: Any person involved in committing or planning terrorist attacks against the American people becomes an enemy of this country, and a target of American justice.” the Al Qaeda “network” was wounded but not destroyed and that we would continue to hunt and destroy the “network”.
    Too often lost by Senator McCain is his preparedness to stay in this “war” indefinitely to accomplish a “Win”.
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    Senator McCain has yet to define “Victory” or how he intends on achieving his view of victory. Again, I am at a loss because President George W. Bush has already declared victory. Our soldiers can meet any challenge but to extend their duty by being asked to “police” a state is wrong. A mighty army is used to crush, overpower and destroy an enemy. America’s mighty army destroyed the enemy in two states and toppled corrupt government regimes and sent the disillusioned coward enemy into hiding into caves. Senator McCain really thinks our army after these accomplishments has failed the mission? Really!
    Senator McCain and President George W. Bush have reduced this immense deadly firepower to the uncharacteristic role of cop in a foreign land. It’ s time to bring our heroes home! The battle has been waged and won and declared so by the leader of the free world President George W. Bush. Does Senator McCain disagree?
    I am for protecting Americans not the interests of the Iraqi government. Is Senator McCain declaring that we remain at “war” with extremists and their “network” in Iraq? How can we be at “war” if congress has never declared we are at war?
    The reality is that these terrorist “networks” are small. Too much attention, as Senator Obama has stated, is being spent on the “network” and not the states that sponsor the networks. I hope each candidate and their respective VP selections are asked to define “Victory” because we have already won.
    Lastly, Governor Palin does not impress me. This VP has been on the scene for a couple of weeks now. Has she spoken to any news network in her own words without a teleprompter? The McCain camp can’t keep her sequestered forever. The GOP says the “surge” is working. I’ll believe them when they don’t have to send more troops to the region; like Governor Palin’ s 19 y.o. son or Senator Joe Biden’ s son.
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    For clarification, the McCain birthday comment was in response to Miss J (just wanted to make that clear).

    One can easily promise the world a million things, it doesn't mean they have the experience to get it done.
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    You are wrong on every level. The US government knew that New Orleans was a disaster waiting to happen. What was more criminal though was the pathetic and inept response of the Bush administration weeks after. That is the point. Aside from the incompetence there is the obvious racial undertone; that would never have happened in Miami or in any other affluent white community.
    I never said a word about McCain being there or anything about his birthday. McCain and Obama had nothing to do with Katrina excepting McCain is a clone and a supporter of George Bush and his policies.

    That's preposterous to ask Congress to work together with Bush vetoing or threatening to veto everything progressive in site. There is nothing to work together on. We do not want reactionary legislation and will not compromise anymore on helth care, immigration, etc. That's what we want. That's why we want a greater majority in Congress.

    I don't care about someone's resume, I care about what they say they are going to do and what they believe in. I saw the debates, I read and I listen. I know many 60 year old idiots and many brilliant 30 year olds.

    I am ashamed of my party because of Democrats like you.
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    Correct post, accidently copy and pasted over my convo :).

    We Need To Win,
    I am very technology inclined and I rebut what you have to say about satellite imagery. The levys were have believe to held up intiailly and flooding is what really caused the scenario that came into play. Believe me, I remember the day very clearly. I asked "where any politician was" simply because no politician was there. You fail to answer to question and do a very poor job at dodging it. I agree on the fact that its the governments responsibility, but again nobody was there so why is McCain expected to be.

    McCain has been criticized on several occasions recently because he was enjoying a birthday the day Katrina hit. I'm sorry, but this point is moot. Where was Obama?

    Now back on topic:

    I very much guarantee you I'm a democrat. I've even had the privilege of meeting Senator Kerry and Senator Nelson back in 04. These are people I can consider true democrats.

    As for the democrats not failing congress, you don't need a sustainable majority to get something done. In the past, democrats and republicans have worked together, democrats simply aren't willing anymore. Equilibrium is important on getting our country back to where it was. John McCain is the closest we will get in terms of bipartisanship.

    Now, you SAY you've done your homework, so I ask you this; What makes Obama anymore qualified to run the country, and what has he accomplished in his political career?

    The MODERN day democrat has been sissified, to afraid to take the action needed to take our country forward. The party once had greats like FDR at the helms, now the best we have is people like Hillary and Obama. I'm sorry, but if you consider yourself a true democrat you should be very ashamed of your party.

    I am not by any means saying Iraq wasnt a disaster. But if we leave Iraq, it WILL make places like Darfur look peaceful, and I know most liberal democrats are constantly aching for us to go control that situation. Our mistake of invading has bred many terrorist, and if we dont stop them before they make it here, we will be in for a major wakeup call.
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    We Need To Win,
    I am very technology inclined and I rebut what you have to say about satellite imagery. The levys were have believe to held up intiailly and flooding is what really caused the scenario that came into play. Believe me, I remember the day very clearly. I asked "where any politician was" simply because no politician was there. You fail to answer to question and do a very poor job at dodging it. I agree on the fact that its the governments responsibility, but again nobody was there so why is McCain expected to be.

    McCain has been criticized on several occasions recently because he was enjoying a birthday the day Katrina hit. I'm sorry, but this point is moot. Where was Obama?

    Now back on topic:

    I very much guarantee you I'm a democrat. I've even had the privilege of meeting Senator Kerry and Senator Nelson back in 04. These are people I can consider true democrats.

    As for the democrats not failing congress, you don't need a sustainable majority to get something done. In the past, democrats and republicans have worked together, democrats simply aren't willing anymore. Equilibrium is important on getting our country back to where it was. John McCain is the closest we will get in terms of bipartisanship.

    We Need To Win,
    I am very technology inclined and I rebut what you have to say about satellite imagery. The levys were have believe to held up intiailly and flooding is what really caused the scenario that came into play. Believe me, I remember the day very clearly. I asked "where any politician was" simply because no politician was there. You fail to answer to question and do a very poor job at dodging it. I agree on the fact that its the governments responsibility, but again nobody was there so why is McCain expected to be.

    McCain has been criticized on several occasions recently because he was enjoying a birthday the day Katrina hit. I'm sorry, but this point is moot. Where was Obama?

    Now back on topic:

    I very much guarantee you I'm a democrat. I've even had the privilege of meeting Senator Kerry and Senator Nelson back in 04. These are people I can consider true democrats.

    As for the democrats not failing congress, you don't need a sustainable majority to get something done. In the past, democrats and republicans have worked together, democrats simply aren't willing anymore. Equilibrium is important on getting our country back to where it was. John McCain is the closest we will get in terms of bipartisanship.

    Now, you SAY you've done your homework, so I ask you this; What makes Obama anymore qualified to run the country, and what has he accomplished in his political career?

    The MODERN day democrat has been sissified, to afraid to take the action needed to take our country forward. The party once had greats like FDR at the helms, now the best we have is people like Hillary and Obama. I'm sorry, but if you consider yourself a true democrat you should be very ashamed of your party.

    I am not by any means saying Iraq wasnt a disaster. But if we leave Iraq, it WILL make places like Darfur look peaceful, and I know most liberal democrats are constantly aching for us to go control that situation. Our mistake of invading has bred many terrorist, and if we dont stop them before they make it here, we will be in for a major wakeup call.
    The MODERN day democrat has been sissified, to afraid to take the action needed to take our country forward. The party once had greats like FDR at the helms, now the best we have is people like Hillary and Obama. I'm sorry, but if you consider yourself a true democrat you should be very ashamed of your party.

    I am not by any means saying Iraq wasnt a disaster. But if we leave Iraq, it WILL make places like Darfur look peaceful, and I know most liberal democrats are constantly aching for us to go control that situation. Our mistake of invading has bred many terrorist, and if we dont stop them before they make it here, we will be in for a major wakeup call.

    Now enough about debating the war, we obviously don't see eye to eye on that, so answer this as its really what this post is about.

    What has Obama accomplished in his career? What in specific terms, makes him more qualified than McCain?

    You do know 80% of Obama supports cant answer that, right?

    Anyways, I've enjoyed the debate. May the best man win!
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    Andrew - With all due respect I have done my homework and am well read and informed not that a deaf, dumb and blind man couldn't see the reality of what has happened after Katrina. Since when does the government rely on "media outlets" to base their monumental national decisions on? Never. They base them on satellite imagery, national guard reports, NOAA. the National Hurrican Center in this case, etc. Where were the other politicians??? Perhaps the stupidest question I have heard yet on this topic. What other politicians; it's the National Government's responsibility to keep their citizens safe and to respond with the financial and infrastructure that onlt the feds have at their disposal. They didn't, they failed, they were incompetent and irresponsible even without the obvious racial undertones.

    The Americans are not welcome in Iraq. That is a lie and every single poll and report states that the Iraqis want us gone. The evil people "were us". That is what you blind, jingoistic reactionaries don't get.

    Your statement "when you start something you finish it" sounds like the most juvenile frat party hyperbole I have heard. When you start something and it's a disaster and you made a huge mistake you don't compound it and make it worse by staying.

    The Democrats have not failed in Congress. They do not have a sustainable majority that is veto proof. The low approval ratings are mainly the result of Democrats who are unhappy because their representatives in Congress didn't do enough to get us out of Iraq and stand up to the war criminal in the White House on FISA, torture and a myriad of other crimes. That's why and those people that answer polls who are Democrats will not be voting for the GOP this fall, take it to the bank.

    I do not believe you are a Democrat and if you are you are a Lieberman clone and all that maks you is a traitor.
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    We Need To Win,
    In regards to Katrina, do some homework. You are correct in the fact of what was expected to happen, but the sad reality is the media outlets initially reported New Orleans escaped the worst case scenario. Again, I ask you, where were any of the other politicians?

    Nobody is arguing the point of the war in Iraq being for an unjust cause, but the fact remains that we destabilized a SOMEWHAT stable region. It's our responsibility to finish what we started. Contrary to belief, the Americans are pretty welcome in Iraq. It just so happens there are also a lot of evil people out there to counteract that.

    As sad as it is, war is a lot like a game in terms of strategy. You see, we went into Iraq without a game plan. The initial invasion had EVERYONE praising Bush, but shortly thereafter the realization came into light as to just how big of a mess we made.

    When you start something you finish it. Do you have any idea how big of a massacre its going to be if we pull out? The liberals will be the first ones crying about the thousands killed.

    You know, as Americans we should be working on becoming more united regardless of opinions. Obviously people like you are walking in the opposite direction, especially with comments of being relegated to the dung heap.

    FYI, I am a registered democrat, I just support whomever is most qualified. Lately democrats have been showing far to much hate, that's not the party I joined and certainly not what my county's people are known for.

    Currently speaking, the democratically led congress has a 19% approval rating. What makes you think they will get anything done when they fail so badly in congress?
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    Andrew luckily for this country and the world, people who belive what you do will soon be relegated to the dung heap of political history having failed miserably while putting us all in danger.

    What makes you think we have the right to stay in any foreign country for even one day that we invaded and occupied based on a rationale of lies while having caused the deaths of more than a million people? You talk about Iraq like some arrogant chess player; plotting the next move, deciding what we the great omnipotent bastion of imperialism will do next.

    Nothing has improved in Iraq; it's imossible by definition for that to occur. No actions such as those perpetrated by us can ever be rewarded with the moniker of success.

    As to your Katrina lies; it was well known what was going to occur on the Gulf Coast and the Corps of Engineers knew the levees would not hold. The Bush administration response has been an unmitigated and raciall motivated disaster.
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    People take the "100 Years In Iraq" comment totally out of context. In almost every war we've been in, with the exception for Vietnam, we have always stayed in the country for quite some time. Look at Korea, Europe, and Japan for example; we have stayed there for quite some time as a means of stability.

    While things are still very fresh in Iraq, in the event that Iraq ever does a reach a level of stability, American troops WILL have to be in the region to help maintain it until it can maintain itself.

    Now of course, nobody wants our troops in the region, but the so called "100 years" doesn't mean under current conditions. I guarantee you, no politician currently in power would allow the current conditions to continue much longer. Things have improved in Iraq, regardless of what we Americans want to think.

    A little research will show a little more truth to the subject. I find your video in very bad tastes and very close to propaganda. If you're going to play ball, at least do it fairly.


    As for you Miss J. I ask you, where were ANY politicians when Katrina hit? The extent of what happening in New Orleans was not fully know for at least 48 hours. Lets not forget, initial news reports had said New Orleans fared well. Ignorance is bliss.
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    They neglected to caption the photo of McCain and Bush holding the birthday cake... that picture was taken in Arizona, after Katrina made landfall in New Orleans, while thousands of people were fighting for their lives in a flood that destroyed their homes, livelihoods, and families.
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